Titan Alpine vs. Titan 8400 – Comparative Review

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TP-Pro Alpine
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These two models came onto the market at about the same time in 2014. Both are L-track chairs and since they are from the same company, and since lots of folks are interested in an L-track chair, these chairs have been compared with one other. The fact that the Titan 8400 is $2995 and the Titan Alpine is $5495, people always ask me if the chairs are worth the price difference.

Well, I figured it was time to compare the two on our blog so that everyone can get an idea of the similarities and differences, and be able to come to a conclusion as to whether the price difference is justified. I have both chairs in my Utah showroom, so I can also give some subjective input about each chair and how they are received by our showroom visitors. I have also written separate reviews about both chairs. You can read those reviews here: Continue reading “Titan Alpine vs. Titan 8400 – Comparative Review”

Introduction – Titan TP-Pro 8400 Massage Chair (Video)

TP-Pro 8400
TP-Pro 8400

Massage Chair Industry Update – May 19, 2015 (Video)

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Quick Hits – iRobotics 7; 18 Month 0% Financing; Visit to Texas

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rss-icon-1-970189-mHere are a few things of note that are going on in our business as well as the massage chair industry:

1. Luraco iRobotics 7

Luraco introduced a new model, the iRobotics 7, at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas back in January. At that time, the chair was not fully completed but the body was on display at the show. That model is now about ready for market deployment and I will be checking it out next week during my trip to Texas (see #3 below).

Here is what I know about the chair so far: Continue reading “Quick Hits – iRobotics 7; 18 Month 0% Financing; Visit to Texas”

Review of Titan TP-Pro Alpine

Titan TP-Pro Alpine Massage Chair
Titan TP-Pro Alpine Massage Chair

Pro-Apline  45dThe new Titan TP-Pro Alpine has fast become one of my favorite chairs. It is one of two new chairs from Titan that features the extended roller track, a.k.a. L-Track. This model is a bigger-bodied chair than the 8400 and seems to have a more sophisticated roller mechanism. I will get into a comparison of the 3 L-Track chairs we carry (the Titan 8400, Titan Alpine, and Infinity Iyashi) in another article, but for today I just want to discuss the features of the Alpine. Continue reading “Review of Titan TP-Pro Alpine”

Review of Titan TP-Pro 8400

Just about a year and a half ago, Infinity came out with their Iyashi, the first massage chair that I was aware of that was officially on the market with an extended roller track, now commonly called an L-Track. What a great innovation in the massage chair industry. A couple of years prior to that I had sat on an Inada test model that had rollers extend from the neck down to the calves, covering everything in between. It was called the D2 or something like that but was never officially developed and brought to the USA.

Since the introduction of the Iyashi, we’ve not seen many more chairs with the L-Track, that are name-brands anyways. Until now!

Recently, the Titan line of chairs (same company as Osaki) introduced two new models, both with extended roller tracks…even an inch or two longer than the 49″ roller track of the Iyashi. Those models are the Titan TP-Pro 8400 and the TP-Pro Alpine. I have both of those models in my showroom and both deserve a review. Today, I will be reviewing the 8400. I have already started a playlist on YouTube for the Titan 8400 and, at the time of this writing, have the intro video up of this chair.

Here are my thoughts and experience of the Titan TP-Pro 8400:

1. It is a smaller looking chair so it won’t take up as much space in your room. I have taken a picture of it next to the Osaki OS-4000T model so that you can see the comparative sizes. The outer aesthetics of this chair are great. It is a beautiful looking chair with great lines. The colors that are available incorporate two-tone colors on the exterior vs. the interior. It is a more classic looking chair that I think will look a little more like it belongs in a room, regardless of the decorum.

2. The chair is very easy to assemble. It comes in one box, is relatively light, and does not require the attachment of arm rests, which is the hardest part of the multiple box chairs to assemble. You only have to attach the ottoman and you are good to go.

2014-12-12 12.52.343. The remote control can fit in either one of two side pockets, which makes it easy to reach as well as hides it from visibility (no pedestal).

4. When you first turn on the chair, the chair defaults to one of the 5 auto programs (the “Comfort” program). Just pushing that one button gets the chair in a reclined position and starts the massage program. The chair does not have 3D rollers (I don’t think any of the L-Track chairs have developed that versatility in the 3D roller system yet), so you are set with the default intensity.

5. If you haven’t experienced a massage chair with an extended roller track (L-Track), you’ve been missing out. The 8400 has a 50″ roller track that goes past your low back and into your butt and upper hamstrings. Before these L-Track chairs came along, the only thing in a massage chair that could address things like sciatica, piriformis syndrome, or gluteal muscle soreness or tightness was airbags in the seat. Now, with the extended roller track, this area gets the same attention that the neck, mid back, and low back have been enjoying for years.

It also seems as though this chair’s rollers extend a bit longer than those of the Infinity Iyashi, which was the pioneer L-Track chair in the market (July 2013). You can feel the difference when the rollers hit the top of the hamstrings. It just felt like the rollers in the 8400 were moving lower down the hamstrings.

I’ll just mention that the extended rollers tend to lift your butt up and forward when they hit your hip area. I had to remind myself to shift my butt back up against the chair back to make sure that I was getting the full benefit of the rollers in the glut region.

6. The mechanical foot rollers can be intense when they are on with the associated foot airbags pushing down on the top of your feet. You can drop the intensity of the foot massage in a couple of ways: a.) decrease the foot airbag intensity and b.) change the speed of the foot rollers. That’s right, this is the first massage chair with foot rollers that allows you to adjust something…in this case the speed of the rollers. There are 3 different speed settings. If it is still too intense, you can always shut off the foot rollers altogether.

Another thing I noticed about the foot rollers is that it feels like there are two different types of foot rollers working you over. I could swear that there is a roller at the balls of the feet moving in a circular motion, while at the same time some rollers working lengthwise along the arch of the feet. Pretty cool, if that is really what is happening.

While I’m on the topic of the feet massage, I thought I’d mention how much I like the heel airbags in this chair. There are some airbags that inflate around your heel and anchor them down as part of the foot and calf massage. Feels great and really keeps the feet anchored in the ottoman.

7. This chair does not have a vibration feature or a stretch program. There is a stretch button on the remote, but it does not appear to offer any kind of a stretch program. As near as I can tell, that button just affects how the rollers work on your spine. After having been on the Iyashi, the Titan Alpine, and the 8400, it is obvious that a stretch program is not especially viable in these types of chairs since the back and seat are all one moving unit in order to maintain the integrity of the extended roller track. The chair just can’t physically move the chair back independent of the seat. So, most stretching programs in these types of chairs involve nothing more than the ottoman airbags inflating on the legs and the ottoman extending, thus pulling the lower half of the body out.

8. There are no hip airbags in this chair. This can actually help larger folks fit in the chair (see #14 below).

9. The literature says that this chair accommodates folks as tall as 6’5″. I would totally disagree with that. The ottoman has a manual extension feature but  I haven’t found it to extend too terribly far. I would say that the chair would fit someone as tall as 6’1″ – 6’2″ tops. Otherwise, it seems that the user is too big for the chair.

10. The arm massage has what I have come to call sequential airbag inflation. There appears to be two air cells in each arm, one for the hand and fingers, the other for the forearm. These air cells inflate sequentially and simultaneously throughout a massage session. Both arms inflate at the same time, so if you have to get your arms out quickly to get out of the chair, you might have a little trouble pulling your arms out right away because of that.

11. There is a lower thoracic/upper lumbar heating element that you can feel pretty quickly after turning it on.

12. The chair has a 20′ massage session timer that is displayed on the remote control.

13. As with most massage chairs, the back roller speed and width can only be adjusted in the manual settings.

20140414. Titan designed this chair with shoulder airbags that flare out. This is a pretty smart move as it will allow broader shouldered users to fit in between the shoulder airbags more easily. One of the biggest beefs we have with the new modern massage chairs is the less than optimal distance between the two shoulder airbags and, more specifically, the shoulder airbag housings. It is a little thing but will allow larger bodies to fit in the chair better. The lack of hip airbags also allows for folks who have a larger bottom to fit in the chair.

Well, that’s about it for my review of the Titan TP-Pro 8400. I hope you found it helpful. Please leave a comment below if you have a question or something to add to this topic.

Dr. Alan Weidner

Christmas Shopping Deadlines!

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truck-delivery-1042539-mAs anticipated, the Black Friday and Cyber Monday was crazy busy! Because of the number of sales and the number of people who called me to see if they could have a few more days to decide on the right massage chair (it’s not really a spur of the moment decision!), we have extended our Cyber Monday pricing to the end of this week. I can’t put the deals on the website, so you’ve got to call me at 888-259-5380 to find out what pricing is available for the rest of this week. Continue reading “Christmas Shopping Deadlines!”

Black Friday & Cyber Monday Sales!!

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snowman_with_surprise_-_no_bkgToday is Black Friday, and the start of the holiday shopping craziness. I will reiterate here what I say every year at the same time…Don’t wait until the last minute to get your massage chair holiday shopping done.

Shipping deadlines are one huge thing, and I’ll get into those on Monday’s post, but models and colors start to dwindle daily starting today as so many people start rushing to get their perfect massage chair.

No matter how much the massage chair companies plan on sufficient inventory, there always seems to be a model or color that goes into back order status this weekend. So, again, if you are thinking of getting a massage chair for someone for Christmas, don’t wait too much longer…or else you’ll have to settle for scraps.

Now, having gotten that off my chest, here is what is being offered for Black Friday/Cyber Monday specials: Continue reading “Black Friday & Cyber Monday Sales!!”

Quick Hits – Port Strike in LA; TP-Pro 8400 Coming; No 3D On Titan Chairs

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rss-icon-1-970189-mI’ve learned a few things this week that may be of interest to you:

1. A few years back, the port workers in LA went on strike right before Christmas and it wreaked havoc on massage chair stock and shipments. It was resolved but not before chairs had been delayed, even late for Christmas. Continue reading “Quick Hits – Port Strike in LA; TP-Pro 8400 Coming; No 3D On Titan Chairs”

New Massage Chair Category – Titan Chairs!

TP-Pro 8400
TP-Pro 8400
TP-Pro 8400
TP-Pro 8400

I have been carrying Osaki massage chairs for a few years now and they have become one of our best selling categories of chairs. In other words, I sell a lot of the Osaki massage chairs. Well, you may or may not know that Osaki and Titan chairs are both owned by the same company and are manufactured in many of the same factories. I have not carried Titan chairs before because of the lower grade components and the fact that many of their models were copies of some of the Osaki chairs I was already carrying.

A month or so ago, I was approached by the folks at Osaki/Titan to see if I would consider carrying a couple of new Titan models that they wanted to distribute through a few select retailers. They are quite high on these two chairs because they are affordable models that have features that can normally only be found on more expensive models. I checked them out and decided to carry them. You can check them out on our website. Although I haven’t sat on either of them yet, I am excited to see the rich feature-sets for the low price points. Continue reading “New Massage Chair Category – Titan Chairs!”